Patrick Ryan, author of BUCKEYE

One Story Magazine Editor Patrick Ryan cut his teeth on the short story form. Author of the critically acclaimed collections The Dream Life of Astronauts and Send Me, Ryan has spent a career editing masters like Joy Williams, Colum McCann, Alice Munro and Ann Beattie. For forty years, he’s tried his hand at novels, but nothing stuck. Until now.

Ryan’s debut novel is Buckeye. The book has already become a Read With Jenna pick (which she calls a “once-in-a-decade epic”). It’s one of those cancel-your-plans, move-into-the-guestroom, forget-about-getting-anything-else-done-for-three-days novels. It is a 450-page wholly immersive book that sweeps across generations and wars and dives deep down into its characters’ lives. It follows two couples in a small Ohio town in the lead-up and aftermath of WWII, how their lives intertwine and the impact of their relationships on the generation that follows, who fight wars of their own.

Ryan captures the intimacy of what happens inside people’s bedrooms and inside their own minds as well as what has happened to our nation and the arc of history across the 20th century. He joins Marrie Stone to talk about it. They discuss pacing a novel versus short stories, the research required to render a novel as detailed as this — and how to make it not feel like you’ve done a lot of research — managing characters across generations, how to avoid sentimentality in intimate fiction, what editing writers like Joy Williams and Alice Munro has taught Patrick about writing, and so much more. They also talk about Ryan’s longtime friendship with Ann Patchett (parts of this novel were written in her basement and the book is dedicated to Ann and her husband, Karl), and how that friendship feeds both their work.

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(Recorded on August 20, 2025)

Host: Barbara DeMarco-Barrett
Host: Marrie Stone
Music: Travis Barrett (Stream his music on Spotify, Apple Music, Etc.)