Andrea Bartz, author of THE LAST FERRY OUT

Andrea Bartz is a journalist and the New York Times bestselling author of the Reese’s Book Club pick We Were Never Here, The Spare Room, The Lost Night, and The Herd. Her thrillers have been optioned by Netflix, Hulu, and other production companies, and more than half a million copies of her books have been sold worldwide. Her work has appeared in The New York TimesMarie ClaireVogue, and she's held editorial positions at GlamourPsychology Today, and Self. She was also a lead plaintiff in the landmark class-action lawsuit Bartz v. Anthropic, which was the first major win for creatives against an AI company as well as the largest copyright recovery in history. She lives with her girlfriend and pets in Brooklyn and the Hudson Valley. Her latest novel isThe Last Ferry Out, published in May.

Andrea joined Barbara to talk about prologues, writing as an intuitive pantser, literary vs. genre fiction, the Anthropic class action lawsuit, and much more.

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(Recorded January 19, 2026)

Host: Barbara DeMarco-Barrett
Host: Marrie Stone
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